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Message 74047 - Posted: 18 Oct 2012, 23:19:57 UTC
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Can someone tell me why my claimed credits are 111 and my granted credits are 20? WU 488772542. WU ran 29k+ secs.
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Message 74049 - Posted: 19 Oct 2012, 2:00:33 UTC

I've seen this before, I believe it was a bad workunit that caused it.

I think if the validator sees this: (taken from your sterr_out)

WARNING! cannot get file size for default.out.gz: could not open file.
Output exists: default.out.gz Size: -1
InternalDecoyCount: 0 (GZ)
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0
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Stream information inconsistent.
Writing W_0000001

...in sterr_out then it grants a default 20 credits instead of failing it all together.

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Message 74076 - Posted: 22 Oct 2012, 18:21:12 UTC
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I have another WU489808486 that only paid 20credits for 29,302sec. Claimed credit was 114. I'm not going to continue to do this. Can someone tell me why this is happening? I would like to get paid correctly for my work!
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Message 74078 - Posted: 22 Oct 2012, 18:42:57 UTC - in response to Message 74076.  

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Message 74082 - Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 12:53:52 UTC - in response to Message 74078.  

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That link didnt tell me squat. I want to know why I wasn't paid at least the claimed credits. I have one more work unit in my que. If it pays less than the claimed credits, I will drop this project.
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Message 74084 - Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 13:56:11 UTC

Why: Your computer simply did not return a valid result. As you can see from the sterr_out I posted above from one of the tasks your PC crunched, there was no output file. The project validator saw that work was at least attempted and gave you 20 instead of 0.

Now, since it's happening consistently there are several things that could be happening.

1. Check "leave applications in memory when suspended" in BOINC, under Tools -> computing preferences. Disk and memory usage tab.

2. You have such a small resource share set for Rosetta that it switches to another project before it checkpoints, saving no data for work performed. This is just a guess, as you have a reasonably modern PC and only 3 total results showing in the database.

3. Frequent reboots or otherwise exiting and restarting BOINC.

4. Unlucky with bad tasks. Someone else has said on here that they always have trouble with hyb* series tasks. I haven't noticed any problems when I run them, so I can't be of any help there.

I'm sure I'm leaving some other possibilities out but there's a start.
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Message 74085 - Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 14:20:06 UTC - in response to Message 74084.  

Why: Your computer simply did not return a valid result. As you can see from the sterr_out I posted above from one of the tasks your PC crunched, there was no output file. The project validator saw that work was at least attempted and gave you 20 instead of 0.

Now, since it's happening consistently there are several things that could be happening.

1. Check "leave applications in memory when suspended" in BOINC, under Tools -> computing preferences. Disk and memory usage tab.

2. You have such a small resource share set for Rosetta that it switches to another project before it checkpoints, saving no data for work performed. This is just a guess, as you have a reasonably modern PC and only 3 total results showing in the database.

3. Frequent reboots or otherwise exiting and restarting BOINC.

4. Unlucky with bad tasks. Someone else has said on here that they always have trouble with hyb* series tasks. I haven't noticed any problems when I run them, so I can't be of any help there.

I'm sure I'm leaving some other possibilities out but there's a start.


I see. One was a hyb_ WU and one was a rb_ WU. Resource share is 100% as is all my projects. I rarely reboot. BOINC runs 24/7. I run v6.12.34. Some one said that running GPU projects can interfere with Rosetta. That I do. If Rosetta can't work with GPU's running it's bye bye. My complaint is putting 29k+ time in on a WU but getting only 20 credits. If the WU is defective then it should be ID'd as so, but they were stated as completed and validated.

Thanks for the help. I am not a whiz a determining what is wrong with a WU that fails so I have to ask someone who is. :p! I will look at my system again and see if anything you mentioned might be causing this. I am upgrading my PSU because I think my new GPU card is taking too much power. I have had a couple of vid driver failures which might have been the cause. I will see if the problem persists with the new PSU.


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Message 74086 - Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 14:53:04 UTC

No one is a whiz on figuring out when things go wrong with BOINC or projects to be honest. It's tough to figure out. With millions of hardware, software, project and application types it's rough to nail down when things aren't working properly. That said, to be fair, Rosetta does not necessarily play nice with other projects. Most have no problems at all, some that get it to work with some tweaking, and there are some that can never get it straight and end up detaching. I'm one of the ones that haven't had any problems, but that's not much help to you.

And you are correct, modern GPUs under load really use the juice. If you've upgraded yours from base, your power supply might not be able to supply enough current. I was using an underrated power supply at one point after upgrading my video card. Whenever I stressed it with gaming, I would frequently get Windows blue screens with "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" referencing the video driver.
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Message 74087 - Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 15:42:58 UTC - in response to Message 74047.  

[Quote] ¿Alguien decirme Florerias Por Que mal Créditos hijo reclamados 111 y Mis Créditos otorgados hijo 20? WU 488772542. WU Corrió 29k + segundos. [/ Quote]


Me pareció ver en algún escrito de Boinc que, alabanzas de Wu, que fueron enviados de acuerdo a la potencia del ordenador receptor. Pero podría haber comprobado que no es así.
Sipasar Gran parte del tiempo elegido le otorga 20 créditos y si se termina mucho antes y mucho menos crédito.
Es como hacer una carretera a pico y pala, o para que ella haga con una excavadora y que tiene un contrato con fecha de finalización.
Puesto que no ha cumplido con el tiempo del contrato te castigan.
Hay suficientes Wu que van desde 600 MB. que el equipo pobre necesita el doble de tiempo a fin y lo tengo en 6 h. pero puesto que no son máquinas potentes .....
Ahora, cuando detecta una WU que una vez descomprimido pasa de 500 MB. Me abortar y ya se lo pides a otro.
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Message 74092 - Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 7:35:21 UTC - in response to Message 74087.  




It seemed to me to see in some writing of Boinc that, WU'S praises, they were sent according to the potency of the computer recipient. But I could have verified that it is not like that.
Great Sipasar of the chosen time grants to you 20 credits and if you finish very much earlier much less credit.
It is like to do a highway to peak and spade, or to do her with an excavator and having a contract with date of completion.
Since you have not fulfilled the time of the contract they punish you.
There are enough WU'S that go on from 600 Mb. that the poor computer needs the double of time to end and I have it in 6h. but since they are not powerful machines.....
Now when I detect a WU that once decompressed raisin of 500 MB. I abort it and they already will order it to other.
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Message 74104 - Posted: 26 Oct 2012, 12:08:16 UTC

Looks like the WUs are finnishing correctly now. I replaced the PSU with a higher wattage and havent gotten any vid driver errors which may have caused the first two WUs to error out even though they supposedly finnished successfully. Yeah!
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