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NewtonianRefractor Send message Joined: 29 Sep 08 Posts: 19 Credit: 2,350,860 RAC: 0	Message 70327 - Posted: 12 May 2011, 18:35:10 UTC I have a workunit that had a validate error aginst 2 other machines. wuid=379604240 What does that mean exactly? I thought for Rosetta all the machines should produce different results anyway because of the randomness seeded into the calculation? ID: 70327 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

svincent Send message Joined: 30 Dec 05 Posts: 219 Credit: 12,120,035 RAC: 0	Message 70328 - Posted: 12 May 2011, 19:39:24 UTC - in response to Message 70327. I thought for Rosetta all the machines should produce different results anyway because of the randomness seeded into the calculation? Normally this is true. In this case though the outcome of the task was something other than success (could be a failure: could be the machine not completing the task before the deadline). BOINC will automatically send such tasks out again to another machine. Note the incrementing final digit at the end of the task name: that indicates how many times the task has been resent. ID: 70328 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Jesse Viviano Send message Joined: 14 Jan 10 Posts: 42 Credit: 2,700,472 RAC: 0	Message 70344 - Posted: 15 May 2011, 5:48:18 UTC - in response to Message 70327. I have a workunit that had a validate error aginst 2 other machines. wuid=379604240 What does that mean exactly? I thought for Rosetta all the machines should produce different results anyway because of the randomness seeded into the calculation? A validate error occurs when the validator (the process on the server that checks to see if the result sent back is acceptable or not) has some sort of error in the validation process itself. If the validator is programmed well enough, that means that this error was caused by the validator itself having an error that is not caused at all by the result. Sometimes, the programmer of a validator incorrectly makes the validator declare a validate error when in reality the result should be marked invalid. ID: 70344 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

.clair. Send message Joined: 2 Jan 07 Posts: 274 Credit: 26,399,595 RAC: 0	Message 70349 - Posted: 15 May 2011, 20:59:50 UTC Last modified: 15 May 2011, 21:06:30 UTC There are also times when after a Validate Error and the work unit is marked as Invalid that we may still get credit for the work done as the validater runs some kind of sanity check on failed work units and some of them pass ok second time around. Though the credit dose not appear on a Tasks For User page. Or on the Workunit Details page. Only on the Task ID page do we get to find out that it was valid after all :¬) Like this is one of mine https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/workunit.php?wuid=385050333 All three of you did get credit for the work done. ID: 70349 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote