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Message 107454 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 22:34:07 UTC - in response to Message 107432.  

What do you call a sheep tied to a post in Wales?
Depends if its a , Lamp post , Fence post , Singh post , or a Love letter :-)
FFS, I got the joke wrong.

What do you call FOUR sheep tied to a post in Wales?
A leisure centre

That's lost on my American mind....
There are no sheep shaggers in America? Ok center.



No..not to that degree. We prefer to take kids to ride sheep in mutton busting.
Kids version of bull riding.
We do like to talk a lot about shit and add shit to everything. So sheep shit might something. Maybe better than road apples or cow patties.
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Message 107457 - Posted: 16 Oct 2022, 22:57:04 UTC - in response to Message 107454.  

No..not to that degree. We prefer to take kids
At this point I thought you meant Americans preferred shagging kids to sheep.

to ride sheep in mutton busting.
Kids version of bull riding.
There should be more of that stuff. Bloody animal rights activists saying bull fighting is somehow wrong, yet it's ok to eat them?!?!

We do like to talk a lot about shit and add shit to everything. So sheep shit might something. Maybe better than road apples or cow patties.
Yet I see "poop" a lot from Americans instead of "shit", because they're too uptight about swearing. In the UK, nobody over the age of 6 would say poop.
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Message 107480 - Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 7:18:28 UTC - in response to Message 107457.  

poop? really? Must be a crowd of PC people.
Shit is so common in American that it ridiculous.
Move that shit, see that shit over there, dumb shit,I got to take a shit, etc.
I guess my work in the stage industry and other places I have worked are rough and tough.
I don't know anyone that says poop.

Well bull fighting is animal cruelty in todays society because the bull is injured and is forced to continue until he's dead. Where as with meat, you shoot them in the head and they are gone in a instant. But I didn't think it was bull meat, I thought it was more the cows that aren't producing a calfs anymore.
Then you have to watch out for downer cows that they shove through the system anyway, the cows with brain eating stuff in them, the contaminated foot and mouth cows. Though all this seems to have disappeared.


And yeah you country Brits swear more than a drunk American.
I noticed Ramsy manages to keep it at PG level, but then when you watch the police interception shows, wow! some really hardcore mouths there. An American cop would be putting the cuffs on and stuffing them in the car for that kind behavior.
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Message 107482 - Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 7:31:37 UTC - in response to Message 107480.  

poop? really? Must be a crowd of PC people.
Shit is so common in American that it ridiculous.
Move that shit, see that shit over there, dumb shit,I got to take a shit, etc.
I guess my work in the stage industry and other places I have worked are rough and tough.
I don't know anyone that says poop.
They all say it in forums because they want to avoid saying shit. If I have to avoid shit I say crap or faeces or excrement, but never poop!

Well bull fighting is animal cruelty in todays society because the bull is injured and is forced to continue until he's dead. Where as with meat, you shoot them in the head and they are gone in a instant.
Death is a million times worse than torture, because it's final.

But I didn't think it was bull meat, I thought it was more the cows that aren't producing a calfs anymore.
Then you have to watch out for downer cows that they shove through the system anyway, the cows with brain eating stuff in them, the contaminated foot and mouth cows. Though all this seems to have disappeared.
I don't have to worry as I don't like the taste of meat! But I do have an odd sense of smell, I think X smells like Y yet others think I'm being daft.

And yeah you country Brits swear more than a drunk American.
I noticed Ramsy manages to keep it at PG level, but then when you watch the police interception shows, wow! some really hardcore mouths there. An American cop would be putting the cuffs on and stuffing them in the car for that kind behavior.
We don't let our police get quite so out of control, but there are still too many of them doing us for pointless little things.
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Message 107523 - Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 10:13:26 UTC - in response to Message 107482.  

poop? really? Must be a crowd of PC people.
Shit is so common in American that it ridiculous.
Move that shit, see that shit over there, dumb shit,I got to take a shit, etc.
I guess my work in the stage industry and other places I have worked are rough and tough.
I don't know anyone that says poop.
They all say it in forums because they want to avoid saying shit. If I have to avoid shit I say crap or faeces or excrement, but never poop!

Well bull fighting is animal cruelty in todays society because the bull is injured and is forced to continue until he's dead. Where as with meat, you shoot them in the head and they are gone in a instant.
Death is a million times worse than torture, because it's final.

But I didn't think it was bull meat, I thought it was more the cows that aren't producing a calfs anymore.
Then you have to watch out for downer cows that they shove through the system anyway, the cows with brain eating stuff in them, the contaminated foot and mouth cows. Though all this seems to have disappeared.
I don't have to worry as I don't like the taste of meat! But I do have an odd sense of smell, I think X smells like Y yet others think I'm being daft.

And yeah you country Brits swear more than a drunk American.
I noticed Ramsy manages to keep it at PG level, but then when you watch the police interception shows, wow! some really hardcore mouths there. An American cop would be putting the cuffs on and stuffing them in the car for that kind behavior.
We don't let our police get quite so out of control, but there are still too many of them doing us for pointless little things.


Policing is not a non political department. Their funding depends on politics, their distribution depends on politics. Poor areas get less and rich areas get more and the rest of us get whatever is left after the rich.
Traffic patrol is about "safety" but it also has to be the funding department. That's why there are so many campaigns and undercover cars and cameras everywhere to record your speed between two points. But is under the guise of "Safety". Trucks get hit with "inspections" that nit pick over the smallest details. Your a half inch over the limit for driving without oversize signs and they hit the trucker for driving without proper signage. Weight limits and badly secured loads I can understand. But I watched a show where they picked out a truck that was with large load that looked to be within the lane limits, but was long. Carnival ride or something. They got out the tape and measured him in all three dimensions and then fined him for not having signs and lights for oversize because he was just an inch or so over length for driving without.

Or the undercover cars, that to me is just harassment. Then there is the driving above the speed limit to come and pull a car over for driving with a phone in the hand. Who was more dangerous? Them speeding to go get the guy or the guy on the phone? Same in the US for speeding, who's more dangerous, me going 10 over or the cop coming from behind the bridge piling at high speed for 3 minutes to come chase me down for doing 10 over? Oh...and privacy. You have a right to privacy, yet the cops set up cameras on every corner to watch you. Ok, it does help solve crime, but where is your privacy?
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Message 107524 - Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 10:21:53 UTC - in response to Message 107523.  

Policing is not a non political department.
Google translate..... "Policing is a political department".

Their funding depends on politics, their distribution depends on politics. Poor areas get less and rich areas get more and the rest of us get whatever is left after the rich.
I disagree, they put more in the poor areas so they can arrest more people and get commission.

Traffic patrol is about "safety" but it also has to be the funding department. That's why there are so many campaigns and undercover cars and cameras everywhere to record your speed between two points. But is under the guise of "Safety".
It's not safe when you're watching your speedometer and looking out for police instead of watching the road. It's nearly caused me to crash twice.

Trucks get hit with "inspections" that nit pick over the smallest details. Your a half inch over the limit for driving without oversize signs and they hit the trucker for driving without proper signage.
Those are absurd, I'm not blind, I can tell if the truck is big without having to read a sign.

Weight limits and badly secured loads I can understand. But I watched a show where they picked out a truck that was with large load that looked to be within the lane limits, but was long. Carnival ride or something. They got out the tape and measured him in all three dimensions and then fined him for not having signs and lights for oversize because he was just an inch or so over length for driving without.
OCD is wrong and should be punishable by death.

Or the undercover cars, that to me is just harassment.
Indeed, but I'm damn good at talking my way out of them. You have to either embarrass, confuse, amuse, or distract them.

Then there is the driving above the speed limit to come and pull a car over for driving with a phone in the hand. Who was more dangerous? Them speeding to go get the guy or the guy on the phone?
That's one way I got let off. I was going 95 in a 70, but he was doing "well over 100 to catch up with you". When I asked if he was allowed to do that without blue lights on, he didn't know!

Same in the US for speeding, who's more dangerous, me going 10 over or the cop coming from behind the bridge piling at high speed for 3 minutes to come chase me down for doing 10 over? Oh...and privacy. You have a right to privacy, yet the cops set up cameras on every corner to watch you. Ok, it does help solve crime, but where is your privacy?
Agreed.
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Message 107526 - Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 11:31:24 UTC - in response to Message 107524.  

Policing is not a non political department.
Google translate..... "Policing is a political department".

Their funding depends on politics, their distribution depends on politics. Poor areas get less and rich areas get more and the rest of us get whatever is left after the rich.
I disagree, they put more in the poor areas so they can arrest more people and get commission.

Maybe over there, not in the US

Traffic patrol is about "safety" but it also has to be the funding department. That's why there are so many campaigns and undercover cars and cameras everywhere to record your speed between two points. But is under the guise of "Safety".
It's not safe when you're watching your speedometer and looking out for police instead of watching the road. It's nearly caused me to crash twice.

Yeah well, you are supposed to know by feel and sound how fast you are going no matter what car you drive.

Trucks get hit with "inspections" that nit pick over the smallest details. Your a half inch over the limit for driving without oversize signs and they hit the trucker for driving without proper signage.
Those are absurd, I'm not blind, I can tell if the truck is big without having to read a sign.

But you have to have the sign, does not matter if you can see it or not.

Weight limits and badly secured loads I can understand. But I watched a show where they picked out a truck that was with large load that looked to be within the lane limits, but was long. Carnival ride or something. They got out the tape and measured him in all three dimensions and then fined him for not having signs and lights for oversize because he was just an inch or so over length for driving without.
OCD is wrong and should be punishable by death.

Hahaha..yeah...but the cops here on traffic are beyond OCD, they are 4th degree OCD. They know every rule in the book by memory.

Or the undercover cars, that to me is just harassment.
Indeed, but I'm damn good at talking my way out of them. You have to either embarrass, confuse, amuse, or distract them.

Not going to happen here in BE world. Your holding the phone, you get fined. No ifs buts or whatevers. The only time they might let you go is if your wife is in labor. Then they will not ticket you. But they usually run your plates and license anyway to check.

Then there is the driving above the speed limit to come and pull a car over for driving with a phone in the hand. Who was more dangerous? Them speeding to go get the guy or the guy on the phone?
That's one way I got let off. I was going 95 in a 70, but he was doing "well over 100 to catch up with you". When I asked if he was allowed to do that without blue lights on, he didn't know!

Here and in the US that does not matter, you were at fault, they have to get you even if they exceed the speed limit by 20 or more whichever units you want to use.

Same in the US for speeding, who's more dangerous, me going 10 over or the cop coming from behind the bridge piling at high speed for 3 minutes to come chase me down for doing 10 over? Oh...and privacy. You have a right to privacy, yet the cops set up cameras on every corner to watch you. Ok, it does help solve crime, but where is your privacy?
Agreed.
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Message 107527 - Posted: 21 Oct 2022, 11:45:37 UTC - in response to Message 107526.  

Yeah well, you are supposed to know by feel and sound how fast you are going no matter what car you drive.
If that was true cars wouldn't have speedometers. I can certainly tell if I'm driving at a safe speed, but not if I'm driving at their silly little OCD number.

But you have to have the sign, does not matter if you can see it or not.
It's easier to spot the truck in front of you is huge than the truck in front of you has a sign. It would be like hanging a sign round the neck of a tiger saying "warning this is a tiger".

Hahaha..yeah...but the cops here on traffic are beyond OCD, they are 4th degree OCD. They know every rule in the book by memory.
The average IQ for a US pig is 104, which is pitiful.

Not going to happen here in BE world. Your holding the phone, you get fined. No ifs buts or whatevers. The only time they might let you go is if your wife is in labor. Then they will not ticket you. But they usually run your plates and license anyway to check.
I use my phone all the time but I've never been done for it, very easy to drop it in your lap out of sight when you see bacon. Anyway, they can't tell I'm holding a phone, I could just be resting my head on my hand.

Here and in the US that does not matter, you were at fault, they have to get you even if they exceed the speed limit by 20 or more whichever units you want to use.
In the US it doesn't matter if you're speeding, take this example in California: https://youtu.be/Tlx5LLdpKeA
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Message 107585 - Posted: 26 Oct 2022, 19:18:35 UTC - in response to Message 107527.  

I use my phone all the time but I've never been done for it, very easy to drop it in your lap out of sight when you see bacon. Anyway, they can't tell I'm holding a phone, I could just be resting my head on my hand.


they hide in undercover cars parked among other cars or off to the side somewhere and look for you. You can't drop your phone unless you know which bright and shiny car is theirs and then you would not be paying attention to your driving or your phone. They can also work in teams. The undercover sits in the parking and then radios your car type and plate to a bike cop waiting further down the road or to the check point where they are doing an action and randomly checking cars paperwork. I've seen on the police show here, a bike cop in downtown nailed a person for using their phone with their hand.
They even use trash cans with holes in the side for the camera to nail you on a residential street for speeding or other locations where a wheeled trash can will blend in.
Undercover cars have infrared or ccd plate readers, so they don't need the big flash of the old days. They can get you in the dark without you knowing until a ticket shows up in your mailbox.
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Message 107685 - Posted: 7 Nov 2022, 22:35:16 UTC - in response to Message 107585.  

they hide in undercover cars parked among other cars or off to the side somewhere and look for you. You can't drop your phone unless you know which bright and shiny car is theirs and then you would not be paying attention to your driving or your phone. They can also work in teams. The undercover sits in the parking and then radios your car type and plate to a bike cop waiting further down the road or to the check point where they are doing an action and randomly checking cars paperwork. I've seen on the police show here, a bike cop in downtown nailed a person for using their phone with their hand.
They even use trash cans with holes in the side for the camera to nail you on a residential street for speeding or other locations where a wheeled trash can will blend in.
Undercover cars have infrared or ccd plate readers, so they don't need the big flash of the old days. They can get you in the dark without you knowing until a ticket shows up in your mailbox.
I'm glad I don't live where you do. In fact I think it's against the rules here in the UK for the police to hide. Fixed speed camera or camera vans must be bright and stripy and in clear view. At least here they're trying to make people slow down in dangerous places, not just collect as many fines as possible. Also, an app on my phone called Radarbot knows every single favourite spot they sit in.
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