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Message 88525 - Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 10:35:40 UTC

Not getting new work units Rosetta & Mini

Rosetta 2 244558 6.29 (0.37 - 103.87) 9792
Rosetta Mini 0 182847 6.67 (0.34 - 86.21) 9924
Rosetta for Android 9995 20353 5.12 (0.35 - 103.38) 1718
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Message 88527 - Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 17:43:52 UTC

+1

Added another core to android tasks while they're plentiful
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Message 88531 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 2:48:40 UTC - in response to Message 88525.  

Basically another ditto post, though I note in addition that the server status appears nominal. I guess I should also note that I've noticed it on Windows 10 and Linux, but the Mac appeared to be receiving tasks as usual.

At least they seem to have stopped with the 3-day tasks. Also the Message boards seem to be working okay today... Such a fiasco the last time I tried to report a problem.
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Message 88532 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 3:17:21 UTC

No work for my computer either
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Message 88535 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 9:42:28 UTC - in response to Message 88525.  

No work for my computer either
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Message 88536 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 9:46:06 UTC

No work for my computer either
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Message 88538 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 10:32:00 UTC

Got 1 Mini but still no Q depth
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Message 88539 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 11:31:45 UTC
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I only get resends
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Message 88540 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 11:54:22 UTC

I have 4 jobs running now but Q's are still empty. How do you identify resends?
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Message 88542 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 12:08:11 UTC - in response to Message 88525.  

Getting new work now after resetting the project.
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Message 88544 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 14:28:39 UTC

It is no mystery. The server status says no "Unsent" jobs.
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/server_status.php

Maybe they will be at work shortly, West Coast time.
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Message 88548 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 21:11:48 UTC

the same here - no work available
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Message 88549 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 21:16:46 UTC - in response to Message 88544.  

It is no mystery. The server status says no "Unsent" jobs.
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/server_status.php

Maybe they will be at work shortly, West Coast time.


What are you writing about? Every time I've checked, there have been plenty of jobs ready to send. Here's the current value from the same status page you referred to (and which I referred to):

Tasks ready to send 18125

Aha, Now I see you're referring to "Unsent" farther down the server status page, and my new question is "What are the 18,125 tasks that are ready to send?"
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Message 88550 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 21:20:31 UTC - in response to Message 88549.  
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Aha, Now I see you're referring to "Unsent" farther down the server status page, and my new question is "What are the 18,125 tasks that are ready to send?"

It has never meant anything to me. When (if) you get someone from Rosetta, maybe they can explain it.
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Message 88551 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 22:34:13 UTC

Monday 26/03/2018 23:30:52 | Rosetta@home | Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

On past form, this is a good thing. Hoping to see some activity when it comes back up.
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Message 88553 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 22:37:56 UTC - in response to Message 88551.  

Monday 26/03/2018 23:30:52 | Rosetta@home | Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

On past form, this is a good thing. Hoping to see some activity when it comes back up.

No sooner written...
Monday 26/03/2018 23:36:30 | Rosetta@home | update requested by user
Monday 26/03/2018 23:36:34 | Rosetta@home | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
Monday 26/03/2018 23:36:34 | Rosetta@home | Requesting new tasks for CPU
Monday 26/03/2018 23:36:36 | Rosetta@home | Scheduler request completed: got 5 new tasks
Monday 26/03/2018 23:36:38 | Rosetta@home | Started download of flags_rb_03_26_82203_124248__t000__0_C2_robetta
Monday 26/03/2018 23:36:38 | Rosetta@home | Started download of input_rb_03_26_82203_124248__t000__0_C2_robetta.zip
Monday 26/03/2018 23:36:40 | Rosetta@home | Finished download of flags_rb_03_26_82203_124248__t000__0_C2_robetta
Monday 26/03/2018 23:36:51 | Rosetta@home | Finished download of input_rb_03_26_82203_124248__t000__0_C2_robetta.zip

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Message 88554 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 22:44:21 UTC

Well, that didn't last long, but I still suspect we'll be moving along soon [fingers crossed]
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Message 88557 - Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 23:57:12 UTC - in response to Message 88551.  

Looks like they're working on it now. One of my machines got some fresh tasks, but by the time I got to this computer (which was shut down for lack of work), they'd apparently stopped sending tasks. The server status page now shows tasks ready in both places, but this machine can't get any.
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Message 88558 - Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 0:25:25 UTC - in response to Message 88557.  

Hmm... Visited the other machines, and this is the only one that can't get any fresh tasks. Even the other Linux machine was fine and got some fresh work when I woke it up. Rebooted this machine (and checked under Windows 10 at the same time), but still no fresh tasks downloading...

As I've said before, the apparent bugginess of the project tends to cast a shadow on the results. If there is something wrong with the Rosetta@home projects on certain machines, then maybe all of the results need to be verified to make sure they ran on "safe" OSes?
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Message 88559 - Posted: 27 Mar 2018, 2:03:08 UTC - in response to Message 88558.  

Hmm... Visited the other machines, and this is the only one that can't get any fresh tasks. Even the other Linux machine was fine and got some fresh work when I woke it up. Rebooted this machine (and checked under Windows 10 at the same time), but still no fresh tasks downloading...

As I've said before, the apparent bugginess of the project tends to cast a shadow on the results. If there is something wrong with the Rosetta@home projects on certain machines, then maybe all of the results need to be verified to make sure they ran on "safe" OSes?

It doesn't take any special knowledge to realise that after nearly 2 days of task unavailability, every live cruncher is trying to drag new tasks down to fill depleted buffers, so in the first few hours it'll be a race to create them sufficiently fast to meet that temporary exceptional demand. That doesn't translate into "apparent bugginess of the project", rather simple arithmetic. Availability or not has no connection with the validity of results, which you conflate. Neither does it imply preferential supply to some machines rather than others. All your machines have received tasks by now before any of them ran out. Same here too.

I've said this before for other reasons, but we make our machines available for whatever the project needs. We don't pay for tasks so we can't demand them. 24/7/365 availability of tasks has never been guaranteed. If the project doesn't utilise that resource, that's up to them. If any of us want to have our machines utilised 247 we're at liberty to hold a backup project. Take that approach and all problems disappear. I only mention the shortage of tasks because I don't actually want to run my backup project at all - by preference, not by necessity.
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